Showing posts with label Osama bin Laden. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Osama bin Laden. Show all posts

Wednesday, March 26, 2008

Legends of the Left: Bush doesn't care about finding Bin Laden (Updated)

There's very popular assertion made about President Bush that he does not care about apprehending Osama bin Laden.

(Bogus quotation)"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."(/Bogus quotation)

The quotation draws pages of hits, until you restrict it such as by limiting the hits to .edu sites, which reduces it to one page consisting mostly of discussion board material.

Where an attempt is made to source the quotation, it is most often said to have been given during a Bush speech on March 13, 2002:
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
(buzzflash.com)
14. "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." -Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002
(Daniel Kurtzman, Rense.com
)
“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.” —Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002
(
Eugenia's Rants and Thoughts)

Many more there are. But none of the hits appeared to offer reliable sourcing. Eventually I searched out President Bush's address from March 13, 2002.

Q Mr. President, in your speeches now you rarely talk or mention Osama bin Laden. Why is that? Also, can you tell the American people if you have any more information, if you know if he is dead or alive? Final part -- deep in your heart, don't you truly believe that until you find out if he is dead or alive, you won't really eliminate the threat of --

THE PRESIDENT: Deep in my heart I know the man is on the run, if he's alive at all. Who knows if he's hiding in some cave or not; we haven't heard from him in a long time. And the idea of focusing on one person is -- really indicates to me people don't understand the scope of the mission.

Terror is bigger than one person. And he's just -- he's a person who's now been marginalized. His network, his host government has been destroyed. He's the ultimate parasite who found weakness, exploited it, and met his match. He is -- as I mentioned in my speech, I do mention the fact that this is a fellow who is willing to commit youngsters to their death and he, himself, tries to hide -- if, in fact, he's hiding at all.

So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. I'm more worried about making sure that our soldiers are well-supplied; that the strategy is clear; that the coalition is strong; that when we find enemy bunched up like we did in Shahikot Mountains, that the military has all the support it needs to go in and do the job, which they did.

And there will be other battles in Afghanistan. There's going to be other struggles like Shahikot, and I'm just as confident about the outcome of those future battles as I was about Shahikot, where our soldiers are performing brilliantly. We're tough, we're strong, they're well-equipped. We have a good strategy. We are showing the world we know how to fight a guerrilla war with conventional means.

Q But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.

But once we set out the policy and started executing the plan, he became -- we shoved him out more and more on the margins. He has no place to train his al Qaeda killers anymore. And if we -- excuse me for a minute -- and if we find a training camp, we'll take care of it. Either we will or our friends will. That's one of the things -- part of the new phase that's becoming apparent to the American people is that we're working closely with other governments to deny sanctuary, or training, or a place to hide, or a place to raise money.

And we've got more work to do. See, that's the thing the American people have got to understand, that we've only been at this six months. This is going to be a long struggle. I keep saying that; I don't know whether you all believe me or not. But time will show you that it's going to take a long time to achieve this objective. And I can assure you, I am not going to blink. And I'm not going to get tired. Because I know what is at stake. And history has called us to action, and I am going to seize this moment for the good of the world, for peace in the world and for freedom.

(whitehouse.gov)(bold emphasis added)

The phrases I highlighted represent the very closest matches for what Bush is supposed to have said that day according to those critics.

I don't think the quotation is accurate.

Additionally, the context of March 13, 2002 makes clear that Bush remained concerned about bin Laden in terms of bringing him to justice (" But once we set out the policy and started executing the plan, he became -- we shoved him out more and more on the margins. He has no place to train his al Qaeda killers anymore."), but less concerned about bin Laden's ability to assist in conducting terrorism operations.

If anyone knows a reliable source for the quotation, please let me know and I'll update the post accordingly after verifying it.

Update:
I have yet to pin down the origin of the quotation, but at least I found a liberal blogger who realized that it wasn't kosher (so props to the hard-to-identify blogger responsible ... could be "hclsmith" if we go by the URL):
13: GWB, in Brady briefing room: [OBL] is—you know, as I mention in my speeches—I do mention the fact that this is a fellow who is willing to commit youngsters to their death. (as is W) And he, himself, tries to hide, if, in fact, he's hiding at all. (just like W hides from protestors, newspapers, etc) So I don't know where he is. I just don't spend that much time on him, to be honest with you…I truly am not that concerned about him. (The widely-repeated version I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority seems to be a mirage. =( )



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Friday, September 07, 2007

All he is saying is give (the religion of) peace a chance

Osama bin Laden's message to the U.S. references disappointment with the performance of the Democrats in Congress (as noted at Powerline, it makes him sound like a member of the Daily Kos), so it's timely enough to be real.

Kos-types may well be convinced that bin Laden is greatly enjoying U.S. involvement in Iraq since it supposedly helps so much with recruiting (certainly plum job openings keep occurring as head of AQI). Some apparently sincerely believe that the AQ leader has been playing rope-a-dope with the U.S., absorbing our best shots while his organization increases in strength.

Given that the organization hasn't made an effective strike on the continental United States in over five years, now, that seems like a bit of a stretch. Moreover, it is difficult to see what advantage AQ would obtain if Iraq turned into a democratic constitutional republic allied in waging war against the terrorism of Islamic extremists. About the only one I can think of is the hope that Iraq would be kept from being dominated ideologically by the (in Osama's view) heretic Shia. But if he were that concerned about the Shia then he'd be doing more to liberate Iran, I think (and perhaps we wouldn't see Iranian weapons in Afghanistan aiding the Sunni Taliban).

The simplest explanation for bin Laden's message is his understanding of the media role in democracy. His speech makes plain that he paid attention to the role of public opinion in determining the outcome of the Vietnam War. Bin Laden seems to be trying to add the little push that will tip the U.S. finally against the war effort in Iraq. As numerous commentators have noted, he uses the the rhetoric of the American left in making his case, going so far as to praise Noam Chomsky (the great linguist/political loon).

Bin Laden' s overall message is contained in the last few paragraphs, and this passage sums it up:
There is a message for you in the Mujahedeen: the entire world is in pursuit of them, yet their hearts, by the grace of Allah, are satisfied and tranquil. The true religion also puts peoples' lives in order with its laws; protects their needs and interests; refines their morals; protects them from evils; and guarantees for them entrance into Paradise in the hereafter through their obedience to Allah and sincere worship of Him Alone.
(Ottawa Citizen)
Suicide bombers will be ready to pray with those who go forward to the altar in response to this appeal.

Friday, July 20, 2007

Why not go after Osama bin Laden?

I've seen it suggested here and there that the U.S. would be better off pulling out of Iraq and going after Osama bin Laden. Trouble is, bin Laden is probably spending most of his time in Pakistan.

Pakistan isn't really wild about allowing the U.S. military to operate within its borders.

PAKISTAN said it could not accept "indiscriminate action" on its territory by US forces without first being informed that there was an al-Qaeda or terrorist target there.

“We remain determined not to allow al-Qaeda or any other terrorist entity to establish a safe haven on our territory,” Pakistani Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam said.

“Whatever counter-terrorism action is to be taken inside Pakistan, it will be taken by our own security forces.”

(the Australian)

Any other great ideas?